Cowlitz & Clark County, Washington
Cedar and vinyl fence, built by a licensed contractor who lives here. Screwed, not stapled. Footings mixed wet, not dry-poured out of the bag.
Every fence looks good the day it goes up. The difference between one that still looks good in ten years and one that starts rattling by the second winter is not the cedar. It is how the cedar was fastened and what is holding the posts.
Those are the two places a fence job gets rushed, and they are both invisible the day the crew drives away.
Most fence crews run a pneumatic stapler or a nail gun down the pickets. It is fast, and on day one you cannot tell the difference.
Cedar moves. It takes on water through a wet winter, gives it back through a dry August, and does that every year for as long as the fence stands. A staple or a smooth nail has nothing to hold onto through that cycle. It backs out a little at a time until the picket is loose and the fence starts to rattle in the wind.
A screw threads into the wood and holds through the movement. It costs more in labor and it is the reason my fences are still tight when the stapled one down the road is not.
There is a shortcut that has become standard on fence jobs: drop the dry bag in the hole, pour water on top, walk away. It is fast and the top of the hole looks like concrete by the time anybody checks it.
Water does not get all the way through a bag by gravity. What you end up with is cured concrete at the top, damp powder in the middle, and dry bag at the bottom of the hole. The bottom is the part of the footing that actually holds the post against wind, and on a dry-poured hole it never became concrete at all.
I mix the bags in a wheelbarrow with a hoe and pour the footing in wet. It takes longer and the whole hole ends up being concrete, which is the only version that does the job it was dug for.
How deep a post goes is not a number off a chart. It depends on what is under your yard, and around here that changes a lot in a short drive.
In Kalama you are lucky to dig at all in places. Hit rock at a foot and a half and the answer is not to force the chart number, it is to work with what the site gives you. Down on the river bottom in Woodland or out toward Cathlamet you have the opposite problem: soft, saturated ground that holds a post less well at the same depth, so it wants more.
A contractor who quotes you a depth before walking the line has not dug in your yard. I would rather look at it first and tell you what it takes.
The gate is where a fence fails first. It is the only part that moves on purpose, it carries its own weight on two hinges, and every mistake in the posts around it shows up as a gate that drags inside a year. There is more than one right way to build one and which one applies depends on the span, the weight, and what the ground is doing there. It gets built the way that situation calls for.
The other thing worth knowing is who you are hiring. Plenty of fence work in this county gets done by crews that come in from out of the area, and the warranty ends about the time they lose sight of your house in the mirror. I am licensed in Washington, I live in Kalama, and my name is on the sign on the truck. If something is wrong with a fence I built, I am ten minutes away.
Cedar and vinyl are the two I take most. Cedar for the look and because it can be repaired a board at a time; vinyl when somebody is done with maintenance and wants to be finished thinking about it. Both get the same treatment underneath.
Farm and field fence, chain link, and repair work on an existing run are all things we handle as well, including jobs somebody else started and did not finish. If you are not sure what fits the property, that is a good reason to have somebody walk it with you before you spend anything.
Same posts and footings under all of them. What changes is how the boards go on, and that changes the price, the privacy and how it looks from both sides.
Cedar Privacy Fence
Solid boards with a lattice topper and cap, about seven feet overall.
Horizontal Cedar Fence
No rails. Boards run flat and the posts carry everything.
Good Neighbor Fence
Boards alternate sides so neither of you gets the back of the fence.
Picture Frame Fence
A trim border around every panel, covering the cut ends of the boards.
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